Is it best to make own VPN?

If you’re trying to hide things from your ISP they will still see it since any traffic is still originating from your home.
Anything sent from your device to your home will be protected, but from the home back out to the internet won’t.

This is why you use a VPN service that protects your traffic from your home/device out to the internet.

It’s technically different to a proxy but yes.

Depends on kind of information. Generally AWS is safe because they host most of the services people normally use like Instagram or Facebook. If your data is more sensitive than that then it’s harder question which takes way more than just a casual VPN.

I rent virtual server at AWS with OpenVPN set up on it. Using OpenVPN connect client on my computer to route my traffic via that rented server.

Yeah you’re right. I guess that term is mostly misused.

No, they’re not proxies. It’s a VPN, just a different use case than their original primary intended purpose.

It doesn’t secretly link them. It keeps the data exchanged confidential. The tunnel itself is visible.

Yes, that’s what VPN actually means, but most of the time the technology is used to help mask your real location/ip address online. :roll_eyes:

Technically you could, but the IP would still be the same. When you’re connected to a WiFi network, the IP address will be the same across all of your devices connected to it since it’s the router’s IP. The only solution would be to get a secondary internet (like maybe another ISP) and set it up on there. At that point though you might as well buy a VPN.

Correct, but you are not a VPN company.

What for? What level of threat protection are you expecting here?

But I’ll have to start by saying that - it’s not possible for NO ONE to see what websites you’re visiting, or what IPs you are downloading from.

If you connect to a VPN you’re creating a secure tunnel between your PC and the VPN server. So now the ISP can only tell that you have some kind of connection to the VPN server IP, but now what you are doing exactly. However VPN server and VPN’s ISP will be able to tell what connections you are making.

However, VPN server providers typically have multiple people using the same VPN server and outgoing IP address, so it will be hard, if at all possible, to tell which person in particular is visiting some website. VPN server provider will 100% have enough access and information to see that, but not their ISP. The only thing that stops VPN server providers from snooping is their reputation, reputability and trust. Think of it what you will. But at the end of the day you will just have to trust them or not.

I suppose the main goal you are after is not to make ‘no one see what you’re visiting’, but to make it so it’s as hard as possible to trace that information to you in particular, to your identity, to your real life name and ID.

In which case you can probably try TOR. It’s kind of designed to do that. It bounces your connection off of multiple nodes before it exits into the internet.

But you must also understand that it’s all just about tracing IP-IP connections here. It’s not the only way how a person can be tracked online. For example VPN\proxies\Tor will do nothing if you pay for something online. Or if you open Tor browser, then log into your Facebook account, and then proceed to do something online. The moment you log into your facebook it will leave some cookies on your browser, and other websites will be able to see these cookies and they will be able to identify you to some extent.

Also - it might sound like conspiracy, but it’s not - ALL network traffic is logged and processed by governments agencies, at least of large enough countries to afford that. Most of it is encrypted and it should be impossibly or incredibly costly to decrypt it, so it would require someone to be looking for you specifically on a national security scale to do that, but it’s in theory possible (in time).

So again. It all boils down to understanding your threat vector, and protecting yourself from that particular vector.

Is there any way to reach the internet without an ISP?
And you’re damn smart. I really appreciate you taking the time.

Well yes, I just didnt go into such detail. Technically its buipt on VPN software and protocols, but its only used as a proxy

No, it’s not “most of the time”. Most of the time VPNs link sites and remote workers over the internet. Privacy use cases do not represent a majority of cases.

I see. Are there any U.S. based VPNs that you know of? I just don’t trust these other country ones since they have all our information when using them.

So you’re saying even if I had my own VPN server I cannot do what they do like encryption. Leaving out the whole IP issue. That’s a bummer.

Well, that’s my concern. Granted I don’t want my countries ISP and govt to get my traffic info (not that I have any reason for them not to) but I don’t see how people are not concerned about these foreign based VPN companies, not knowing anything about them, handling what they clearly want private. A particular VPN company, I will only say is based in Switzerland and loves the color purple, address is actually a grungy transportation company in street view and a fitness club on the map. And to that, this company has been known to turn by order of their govt. to give out client information. but if a vpn company that has email where only you have the password and they are not keeping your VPN usage info, then how are they able to have anything to provide when asked?

No there’s not. And thank you.

Nope. A proxy is an entirely different technology.

Source: I maintain a fleet of proxies. And dozens of VPN services.

OP was referring to VPN service providers, not remote workers. I was simply answering their question.